Talk:Samantha Bond

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Ambiguity

"Samantha Bond (born November 27, 1961) is an English actress best known for her role as Miss Moneypenny in the James Bond franchise. Moneypenny is the secretary to James Bond's boss, M. She trained at the world renowned Bristol Old Vic Theatre School." Who? Moneypenny, or Samantha? -Quadraxis 19:25, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reworked it to make it more clear. K1Bond007 20:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Quadraxis 02:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bond/Brosnan & Bond/Moneypenny

I removed this section of material:

Many fans of the Bond/Moneypenny dynamic were extremely disappointed; no other couple had portrayed 007 and Moneypenny quite as well as Brosnan and Bond did. No actress has thus far been cast to fill the role and for the first time since the film series began.

As it was extremely subjective and not NPOV, and reworded the last sentence into the remaining paragraph.Largo1965 21:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:Miss Moneypenny by Samantha Bond.jpg

The image Image:Miss Moneypenny by Samantha Bond.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
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Image in infobox

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As per Fair use - no free equivalent - criteria is met, and this is a valid image. If there is another image available, we could use that, but there isn't.
The MOS, in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Images states: "It is very common to use an appropriate representative image for the lead of an article, often as part of an infobox." Given that the very first sentence of the article is "Samantha Bond (born 27 November 1961) is an English actress best known for her roles as Miss Moneypenny " this would make it an exemplary image to use.
I can find no recommendation or guide that states we should not use actors or actresses "in role" as part of the infobox image.
Bond is inherently linked to the Moneypenny role - see these links here where she is specifically introduced as (former) Miss Moneypenny in the BT adverts[1][2]
I see you've just left a message on my talk page. You are correct to state that "I know that this image has been tried on this page before and it's been removed. At least a couple times" - because it's been removed by you (and only you) each time, but added by different users. That suggests that there may be a fair use argument after all, and that consensus is to include the image, therefore (again) that Fair use is justified. Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:05, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't quote the entire sentence regarding free equivalents. The first sentence reads: "Non-free content cannot be used in cases where a free content equivalent, with an acceptable quality sufficient to serve the encyclopedic purpose, is available or could be created." (emphasis mine) Bond is still alive and a free image could still be made of her. Therefore, the image does not meet the fair use guidelines. Dismas|^(talk) 10:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion is almost identical to another discussion at Talk:Kelly Monaco#Use of Kelly Monaco Image from Sam McCall. In that, another editor (who is an admin who deals with images quite a bit both here and at Commons) agrees that images from a role that an actor played cannot be used in the article for the actor while that actor is still alive. Dismas|^(talk) 01:34, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A vast majority of soap opera actors use their character pictures as theyère the only pictures we have of them uploaded. As long as itès noted that its a picture of the actor portraying the character, there shouldnèt be any problem or confusion. Rusted AutoParts 19:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How is NFCC#1 settled in those cases when a free image could still be created? Dismas|^(talk) 19:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, if the picture is created, it's created, we can substitute it out once it's uploaded. But technically, we have a picture of Bond, despite her playing a character, so we should at least use it for the time being. Rusted AutoParts 19:33, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusted AutoParts: Please see Wikipedia:Non-free content review#File:Miss Moneypenny by Samantha Bond.jpg. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 22:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rusted Autoparts, any non-free image used in the bio article of a living performer is a NFCC violation of the most basic kind, and should be removed immediately. I completely disagree with your assessment that "A vast majority of soap opera actors use their character pictures", and if you really see this happening then those articles have just yet to be noticed by anyone who actually knows policy (and by all means let me know which articles these are). It has nothing to do with actor vs. character but rather, as long as the performer is alive there is the possibility of a free Commons image, and no image is preferable to a nonfree one from a copyright policy perspective. Readers who want to know what Bond looks like can go to the Moneypenny article.— TAnthony^Talk 17:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Complete Overhaul

Hello to anyone who is interested! I just worked all day on this page and completely overhauled it to be better organized, more readable,and less like a fan wrote it. It previously read like marketing material, so I wanted it to be more neutral. I also added citations and more Wiki links. I think it is much better now, as it is now closer to the way most actor/actress pages are set up. Please let me know if you have further suggestions. Enjoy! nycdi (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Samantha Bond/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JohnWickTwo (talk · contribs) 09:36, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Review may take a few days to prepare. All of the citation template requests need to be taken care of as well from another editor last week. JohnWickTwo (talk) 09:36, 16 June 2018 (UTC)?[reply]

@Nycdi: Normally, GA review means that some progress is shown after several days on taking care of citation template requests in the nominated article. Is there any progress to report? JohnWickTwo (talk) 00:02, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quick close following no activity for over a week

The nominating editor appears to be on Wikibreak and no progress on improvements has taken place since opening this review. The article should not be re-nominated by any editor without first removing and addressing all the citation template in the article. This review is quick closed as a result of no progress shown. JohnWickTwo (talk) 00:00, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnWickTwo:Hi there. I have been dealing with health issues that came up since I nominated this article, and do intend to followup and make the suggested changes, which I have not yet reviewed. I haven't dropped the ball, and will bring my attention to it once my health is improved and I can change focus. Thank you. nycdi (talk) 18:36, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]